Marion Lynn Is Wrong (Again)

It was brought to my attention recently that Marion Lynn (yes, him again. Bear with me, I'll try to be brief) is under the erroneous assumption that I am posting all over the place about him, and essentially harassing him in forums unrelated to spam using the nickname "snap_pop_no_crackle".

An example can be found here, in which Marion responds to the user named snap_pop_no_crackle regarding a story about Auschwitz (warning: not a lot of sensible discussion going on over there.)

14 January 2008 at 8:15 p.m.

snap_pop_no_crackle (Anonymous) says...

snap writes:

marion

,

do

you

think

this

book

will

be

more

profitable

than

outingbulkerbiz's

tome

?

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14 January 2008 at 8:34 p.m.

Marion Lynn

Marion (Marion Lynn) says...

Well, Sil, A**hole or "Snap"; whatver is appropriate, I intend to make my recollections and research available as a free downloadable E-book because I believe that it contains infomation which cannot be found elsewhere and that the information is important to our understanding of history.

Just to set the record straight: I am not that user. Nor do I post on ljworld. Nor would I ever.

I also am not the same username (snap_pop_no_crackle) who is posting on Marion's own rather ridiculous forum, rivercitytalk. (I'm not linking to it. You can find it pretty easily yourself.) I personally believe that snap_pop_no_crackle is a user who originally commented on my blog anonymously back in June 2007:

Anonymous

Anonymous said...

See: http://www2.ljworld.com/onthestreet/2007/jun/01/mos_spam/
for a mass spanking of Marion.

6/07/2007 06:32:00 PM

I could be wrong. It could be someone else. I hadn't even seen that posting, and you can see numerous comments by that user. This was the first I'd ever heard of it, or the username snap_pop_no_crackle. It's still a pretty good read, but that is not me.

Just to further clarify: The only monikers I have ever used to identify myself in all things spam-related are:

• SiL (short for SpamIsLame)
• IKS (short for IKillSpammers)
• concerned citizen

Marion can believe what he wants, but he's (as usual) mistaken.

Which calls into question the quality of the information he's been using to out several members of Bulkerforum. I notice all posting has come to a complete halt at spamgossip.blogspot.com since last November. Much of what he posted didn't amount to actual "evidence" in the first place. Just a litany of names. Clearly he was on the right track with a few of them, notably Phantom. But where's the beef?

I've got one for him to try and dig up: the admin of bulkerforum.biz. What's his name? Where does he live? What else does he run besides bulkerforum.biz?

I would bet dollars to donuts that Marion hasn't got a clue. Not that it really matters anyway; that forum has essentially cannibalized itself.

Anyway. Now that that's off my chest, back I go to fight more VPXL spam.

SiL

Marion Lynn's Continuing Rat-Out

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Nick Danger's Mouth Rides Again (by night)

So as I mentioned, Nick Danger (aka: Marion Sidney Lynn) has been blabbing away on NANAE regarding the alleged treasure trove he claims to have regarding the personal data of several high-ranking members of Bulkerforum.biz.

On Sept. 15th, he created what appears to be a very crude site outlining the personal data and recent malicious activity of bulkerforum member "lizza", who he claims is actually named Stephen Joseph. He posted a new entry to NANAE featuring a link to his glorious creation. I thought I'd take a gander and outline some of the details of the posting here in the event it all goes down (which these things have a nasty habit of doing.)

As I mentioned before: Nick Danger is both a gasbag and a small fry, and my subsequent research, tempered with his own blatherings, has borne out that he probably hasn't ever sent email 1 for promotional purposes. This doesn't preclude him from acting illegally of course. Aggravated identity theft and fraud, not to mention stock manipulation, are still very serious crimes -- at least: the last time I checked. He's still never disavowed performing any of those acts despite boasting loudly on bulkerforum about alllll the sordid instructions concerning how to do so and never get caught.

So. First off, here's a screenshot of the site as he created it (oh and of course, this is definitely NSFW, knowing mr. Danger's prowess with the profanity):

[Edit, June 2008: Due to changes at HideBehind, this screenshot is missing. It will be re-uploaded momentarily.]

Note: it's rather long. This is Marion Lynn we're talking about. The man needs to hire an editor. I have an entire copy of the page should anyone require its full contents. I have not altered a single line of it.

In the lengthy one-pager, he outlines where Lizza / Joseph lives, and that on a certain night between 1:13 AM and 1:21 AM, lizza boasted about ddos'ing or otherwise attacking the bulkerforum website, at ip address 201.0.8.247. That IP address is in Brasil, and is one of five ip addresses which the forum has routinely bounced between since I started doing my own research on them (Sep. 2006.)

He lists some very non-threatening personal details such as where he went to highschool, and what his MySpace identity is. Not much anyone can dig up from that.

He alleges that Joseph lives in Chula Vista, California. How does he know this? Likely from a variety of lengthy conversations they may have had via a variety of means. It sounds like Marion and Steve had some kind of close contact in the past while. I'm not sure what that would be regarding but it certainly seems to point that way.

He also divulges one of lizza's email addresses (steve_joseph87@yahoo.com). I'm sure by now even lizza doesn't even use email for any legitimate communication, thanx to the damage done to that medium by scumbag spammers like him.

The more interesting stuff is in the variety of postings which Marion has posted below that. It's a lengthy re-posting of what appear to be forum postings from a variety of members. I'm not sure if this is from bulkerforum or what, but there are conversations between a variety of members. It's possible that these are even private messages from bulkerforum, or another forum. I can't be sure. The members which are quoted include:

• lizza


• icanspam


• Third Eye

How did he get this information? And who gave it to him?

He also divulges that lizza (on bulkerforum) also goes by the usernames "Flores9xxx" and "nugs". In the previous NANAE posting he also lists the usernames "proyboy", and the nick names "Stevie" or "shorty". He also claims (apparently erroneously) that lizza also went by the name "seven" at one point.

Then "Nick Danger" claims to be quoting a pm between lizza and himself, but using the username "Third Eye". He goes into a great deal of detail about lizza's connection to a company called Lead Point (leadpoint.com. lizza claims that's a red herring but who knows? This is either good research or a massive, meandering wild goose chase.

Also: Does everyone on bulkerforum have this many usernames and aliases?! It's a bit ridiculous event to me. You'd think this was the Lucchese crime family family for god's sake.

Finally: the geocities site makes it clear that bulkerforum appears to be a leaky boat at the very least, and that several higher-up members seem to be sharing private member information in a very loose fashion. Nick Danger wants to make it sound like a problem of some urgency ("IS PHANTOM GIVING OUT YOUR INFO?", etc.) but again: since phantom barely ever says anything on there lately, it's hard to be sure whether Nick is on the right track or not. But clearly: somebody got this info via some means unknown to members of that forum, and it somehow made its way to Marion Lynn. I guess only he will know who gave it to him, or when, or why. I don't personally care. As long as law enforcement are watching all of this it's just fine by me. :)

Since the chat transcript makes it at least semi-clear that lizza is willing to perform a cyber attack against a forum he's already a member of (!!), this makes him a pretty prime target for folks like me whose forum is currently under an anonymous sustained attack (week #5, and my threat still stands.) As I mentioned, this is only one of several attacks currently underway.

So I have handed all of this over to law enforcement in the event it turns out to be useful. :)

I personally feel that the sustained attacks against all of the spam and fraud research sites are being coordinated from Russian sources, and I am narrowing down a list of who that might be. I'll obviously post more as I get it. (Though not before notifying several legal channels first.)

I've also begun several investigations into the background of Steve Joseph / flores99x / nugs / lizza in the event anything can be turned up in that regard. He probably knows enough shady scumbags to pull off one or more of these types of events.

Lizza has always struck me as easily the most paranoid of the bulkerforum members (a close second would be phantom or Crypto, but they now post so seldom it's impossible to tell anymore.)

An aside: a representative of spamhaus named Susan responded to Nick Danger's NANAE posting (linked above), referring to bulkerforum member phantom as "the Australian megalomaniac". That's tantalizing. He rarely gives up any information whatsoever, so I'm digging into that also. (And handing whatever I find over to Spamhaus and Australian law enforcement, if that's where he truly is located.)

This is a bad year to be a spammer of any sort. By my count there have been 7 major arrests just since March of 2007, and three very large-scale court cases (two of which are still pending.) On a daily basis we see new news items of several investigations discovering new suspects and illegal operations, all fed by spam. It's a zero-sum game which just appears to be taking longer than usual to be taken down from the inside out. Why on earth would anyone knowingly become an email spammer in this climate? Why would anyone want to keep doing it? The profits are outweighed by the obvious risks. Apparently nobody in that community appears to be aware of any of this.

Which is a good thing, ultimately. I hope they lock up the whole lot of them and throw away the key. I've never in my life been bombarded on such a frequent basis by illegal advertisements from such a huge group of idiot scum in my entire life.

Keep it up, spamming morons. You'll see exactly where it gets you.

SiL / IKS / concerned citizen.

Spammers = Still Whiny - But Also Somewhat Startled.

Well it turns out I didn't even have to do anything! (Or at least: not as much. :) )

Of all people: Nick Danger went and posted this on NANAE.

Curiouser and curiouser...

I guess he has recently been kicked off of a variety of spammer forums. (Nice job on that one, btw.)

My statement still holds true. I'll make sure the very wrongest of people get the very most of several people's personal information until these attacks stop.

SiL

The Attack Begins...

Interesting that "suddenly" both Spamhaus and several of the spam Blocklist sites are all under a large-scale and sustained DDOS attack. Probably the same one that Nick Danger was threatening to undertake (with help from others.) Could this be "the treatment" he had in mind?

A reader posted in a comment on my previous posting that Nick Danger / Marion Lynn is now being lambasted by his fellow comment-posters on ljworld.com.

I'd just like to add that since I'm nowhere near that region, nor do I care to bother with it, I am not a member of that site, and I'm not doing any posting there at all. (It looks like I didn't have to anyway.)

Marion made the following posting:

5 June 2007 at 12:13 a.m.

Marion (Marion Lynn) says...

Oh yare not only getting ready to help with the sales of my book but to bring down Spamhaus and Spam-Court; both of which have malingned me with out proof but with malice aforethought.

Note the date. June 5th. I'm not the only one who did.

On June 8th, a contributor named "Guntrainer" posted the following:

8 June 2007 at 6:25 a.m.

GunTrainer (Anonymous) says...

Compare that with the June 7 news item at http://thespamdiaries.blogspot.com/
"Thursday, June 07, 2007
Spamhaus, uribl, surbl under DDOS attack

This has been ongoing for a couple of days now. Spamhaus and two other major blocking list providers have been under a distributed denial-of-service (DDOS) attack."

I wonder if Nick's buddies realize just how much self incrimination is going on here? How did Nick Danger / Marion Lynn know about this attempt to "bring down Spamhaus" as he puts it, at the very moment it began?

This turkey is asking for an early Thanksgiving.

Indeed!

As a followup: Spam-court.com appears to be back so my previous (lengthy, so apologies) posting on its demise was premature.

DDOS attacks always remind me of a three year old having a tantrum. "Spammer doesn't get what he wants, spammer cries. Spammer want!!"

I would love it if someone would instantiate a "turn off your pc day", where everyone - no matter where they were - HAD to turn off their computer or disconnect it from the internet. Make it some kind of grassroots operation so it fed into the promotion of greenspaces or a music festival of some sort.

Even half of one day with all the infected zombies in the world off the network would sincerely damage these criminals' ability to perform these attacks.

I don't know what it would take to do it but I for one would donate to such a cause.

My thoughts go out to the diligent crews behind these blocklists. People around the world have no idea how much effort they put in to reduce the flood of unwanted crap email that we would all literally be buried under. The term "just delete it" doesn't even come close to solving this obvious problem. Spammers want every one of us to have 10,000 copies of their messages every single day. They get mad when it's "only" 20 or 30 copies a day. Then they throw a tantrum.

I hope this leads to several arrests, since a lot of eyes are watching this one. Nick Danger may not be actively participating in this attack (and in fact it's highly unlikely) but it's clear he and others have been in touch with several individuals, either on bulkerforum.biz or via other means, who could make sure it happened.

SiL

P.S. This has further exposed that Marion Lynn is also involved with a non-profit called "Computer Waste Solutions", who I'm sure would not be happy to learn of his unscrupulous beliefs regarding the treatment of homeless people or operating as a trader of stocks, not to mention the charming company he keeps over on bulkerforum.biz. (Whether he spammed or not, ever in his life, he definitely has a very skewed view of what constitutes fair trading in the stock market.)

It's also brought up that he appears to be a militant pro-lifer with a new book which is about to be published. I'll try researching that one as well, but as I say I'm kind of done with him. I could never have dreamed that the ljworld community would take this and run with it as they have. :)

Spam-Court - Gone but not forgotten.

Well there we have it. The members of Bulkerforum.biz have successfully managed to bully spam-court off the grid:

spam-court.com is currently under maintenance, has crashed, gone to pieces or whatever. ddos or hacking are also possible explanations. But we have no idea what the specific reason may be. We could be back shortly or not at all. Thank you for your eternal patience. Now do something useful, like hunt down a spammer.
Contact DucksInTwoRows@gmail.com if you have any questions.

This is likely due to their ISP receiving some manner of frivolous lawsuit. If you go over to bulkerforum.biz you will see a lot more bluster from Nick Danger a.k.a. Marion Lynn. I find his whole approach to all of this interesting. In sequence, the following events took place to get us to here. See if you can follow his "logic":

• spam-court and I both began discovering a series of interesting links which made it clear that Nick Danger was very likely to be Marion Lynn.


• We slowly began exposing that information, largely because the man is an unconscionable windbag with no moral fibre whatsoever. That seemed to hit a nerve.


• Nick Danger posted a threat directed at spam-court:

These fuckers need the TREATMENT!

"Spamhaus, Junior"!

SOMEONE needs to do a "Blue Security" on them, like RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!

If this post reads as though I am calling for open warfare on these bastards; that is EXFUCKINGZACTLY what I am doing!.

• Spam-court correctly assumed that that must mean some manner of DDOS attack, since that is precisely what happened to Blue Security.


• His DDOS threat was removed by the admins of bulkerforum.biz, and Nick Danger suddenly started backpedalling, stating on the forum that he would send a cease and desist letter, implying that spam-court had somehow stated things which he had not said, or had stated things which were untrue. He never backs any of this up with actual proof.


• He starts posting statements that spam-court are "are going nuts over there just as I predicted." Why he feels this way is beyond me. (Or anyone else for that matter.)


• He then begins posting on bulkerforum that he is, as we assumed, Marion Lynn, and that in general we have been right on the money.

Well, by now nearly everyone on the planet knows that my given name is "Marion".

"HI!"

Oh, well.

Big Fucking Deal.

What they do not know is ME!

• This is an odd thing to say when you're in the midst of telling someone else to cease and desist from doing so. He further confirms that he does indeed have indepth knowledge of how to cover his tracks and how to profit from an illegal market manipulation like stock spamming. But that the knowledge of the act and performing the act are two different things.


• He posts another tersely-worded entry on bulkerforum.biz stating that he has never spammed, and that (for example) he might know how to build an atom bomb, but that doesn't mean that he is actively making one. The line was edited by one of the admins mere moments after being entered. He also claims he sent what he thinks was a threatening image to someone at spamhaus. (From the description he gave it sounds really ridiculous, not threatening.)


• In the same posting he claims he mistakenly left his real name when he registered to bulkerforum.biz. What he's completely missing is that that is NOT how any of us discovered his real name. It was painfully obvious that he was the same person posting on numerous other forums. (ironically: something that "anyone" genuinely could discover with a little Googling.)


• A few posts later he claims that he's always been interested in spamming and that he can't wait to get started doing so, calling it "both the best thing going and the real future of advertising on the internet."

If he's trying to clear his name, he's certainly not going about it the right way at all.

If you are claiming that someone is defaming you, that has to be because:

a) What they are saying about you is not true and could never be proven.
b) What they are claiming you said or did has never been said or done by you.

He clearly HAS said these things. And if he "has knowledge" of how stock spamming works, especially to the level that he seems to, he would have to have acquired that knowledge from someone else who was that much more advanced in performing this (illegal, did I mention?) act.

And what better place to find such a person than on a forum specifically tailored to large-scale spamming, especially of illegal content such as stock spamming?

And now he's re-confirming - on bulkerforum.biz - that he said all of this, and that he is who we thought he is, but that suddenly it's "no big deal." This is thoroughly confusing.

Lynn has since re-countered (at length, ad nauseum) on the NANAE news group that "anyone" could have found out the same information by merely performing a few google searches, and he provided three links to very basic top-level descriptions of what a pump-and-dump stock scam looks like. I know for a fact that that's complete bullshit. It was impossible to discover ANYTHING regarding how stock sponsors work in a stock spam operation, nor did any of these news websites he listed point to any further detailed information regarding the timing of the spam run, when to buy, when to sell, and how to cover your tracks while doing all of this. I know this because I was mad enough about the deluge of stock spam I receive every day that I read everything I could possibly find on the subject, and no major news website covered it to that level of detail.

The only place I ever saw any of this information - all of which can be covered under the charge "conspiracy to commit fraud" - was in his postings on Bulkerforum.biz.

And now he's saying that he DID say these things. So which is it? If you're going to sue someone, you tend to need to stick to your story. I know that spam-court was aware of this, and they let their ISP know that this guy was probably going to be all bluster and hellfire, serving some ridiculous cease and desist.

Marion Lynn should just learn to shut up. After awhile: if you talk enough about performing a criminal act, the cops won't even care that you actually carry it out: they'll just ask you why you're mouthing off about it so much. I get the feeling that day will fast be approaching, and it won't even take a blog posting like mine (or spam-court) to make it happen.

But as you probably all know: I'd certainly love to help it along. :)

I honestly could care less about Marion Lynn anymore, and as such I don't plan on posting anything more about him (unless he starts piping up about this site also.) :) The man has no scruples, and he doesn't care who he pisses off. He should. Because if any legitimate businesspeople discovered he liked to hang around with the likes of the other charming members of a massive spamming forum, I imagine they wouldn't want much else to do with him.

One can always hope.

My thanks go out to the owners of spam-court wherever they are. Hopefully you can come back online someday. Meantime we'll continue to expose these fraudsters and criminals for what they really are.

SiL / IKS / concerned citizen

Bulkerforum.biz: touchy touchy!!

Suddenly, and apparently apropos of nothing, one "Nick Danger" decided that it's time to "take down" a site that is performing research on the members of that forum. It's a website with a fairly niche readership, to say the least: Spam-Court.com.

You may want to cover your ears (eyes?) as Mr. Danger has quite a mouth on him.

And I quote:

Subject: Time To Do A Takedown On "Spam Court"!
Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 1:24 am

These fuckers need the TREATMENT!

"Spamhaus, Junior"!

SOMEONE needs to do a "Blue Security" on them, like RIGHT THE FUCK NOW!

If this post reads as though I am calling for open warfare on these bastards; that is EXFUCKINGZACTLY what I am doing!

I don't have the wherewithal or the expertise, otherwise, I'd do it myself.

Let me know how I can help.

Thanks.

Nick Danger.
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He walks again by night.

Now: why on earth would he suddenly wish to be undertaking such a loud, public and illegal act?

It doesn't appear that the website has any deep information on Nick Danger. (Although that is certainly not difficult to dig up, trust me.) Instead, it appears that the information which spurred this angry tireade from Mr. Danger is a recent posting regarding a member by the name of "mcproxy", who also has been pretty obvious about leaving trails of evidence to his true identity over the years he's been active in the business of spamming. I say this because the posting regarding mcproxy (on Spam-Court) was posted on May 5th, 2007. No posting has been made regarding Nick Danger since September of 2006.

The posting as it currently appears on Spam-Court reads as follows:

[Removed out of respect for Spam-Court doing the same. Essentially very scant details identifying bulkerforum.biz member "mcproxy"]

That sounds pretty... obscure. It is clear that he may have more detailed info which he has chosen NOT to divulge, and most crucially: it's not like any of this is difficult to trace back at all. I myself could have made a similar posting many months ago but thought it wouldn't really be worth anything. Apparently I was mistaken.

Compare and contrast that with what is currently present on Spam-Court regarding Nick Danger:

Nick Danger
Posted September 17th, 2006 by TheScribblers
bulkerforum.biz
We have seen that one before, probably on SH. Small fish, even not that.
We are a bit afraid of Marion though. A geek with a gun and he is a little cobra too.
Honestly Marion, get out of there before it is too late.
Find something else to do.

If this vague set of references -- to someone else!! -- is what has Nick Danger (et al) so riled, why hasn't mcproxy piped up and done something about it? In fact his reply to Nick Danger's call to arms was decidedly more diffusive:

mcproxy
New postPosted: Mon May 07, 2007 11:41 am
Not the best researchers(haha) but Nick has a point. It's one of the few groups that watches BF closely. And that's a problem.

It's a problem that people will want to watch a public forum? What is this: communist Russia for Pete's sake?

It is clear from many months of watching their little hive of activity that mcproxy is much more technically savvy than the volcanic Mr. Danger. (Great name there by the way, buddy.) This must mean that the info is indeed bang on, and means that any idiot out there who really wanted to could probably connect a few dots from this teensy, scant bit of information. Again: these spammers are about as tight-lipped about what they leave in the public domain - including what they post on their deal-making forum - that if they actually do perform this DDOS attack, and it does knock the site out, the owner of Spam-Court would most definitely have several legal legs to stand on, since it is clear that he has identified at least two of the individuals who would be directly contributing to this attack.

Which begs the question: is this a good tactic to take down spammers? Spamming is still roughly considered a legal "gray area", since not every state can agree on what constitutes actual spamming activity. But a DDOS: that's punishable, and especially if you have conspiratorial messages like this one loudly proclaiming that such activity is about to occur, seeded by the very same two people this website has identified publicly: isn't that the perfect grounds for suing these individuals and demanding compensation?

I think so. Plus it has the added benefit of obviously removing two more from the ranks of idiot spammers who don't know when to actually stop emailing people who don't want their crap.

Bulkerforum.biz has always been a good place to get at least a litmus test of general spammer activity, but much of what occurs on that forum is behind the scenes, usually via nothing more than private messages or other offline communications methods.

Mr. Danger should be more careful about how publicly he proclaims something requires "Taking down." For the benefit of those readers who do not know the true character of this charming individual, I will quote from a few gems he's also posted on this forum, all of which hint at a vast array of illegal activity that he participates in liberally, and apparently with no sense of morals whatsoever.

Regarding setting up so-called "bulletproof" servers in a posting from Sept., 2006:

Posted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 5:42 pm
Post subject: Inhibitors OF Free Speech.......

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...are they all!

AS a bit of a Newbie, it seems to me that one must own about nine dozen domains purchased in the names of freinds, relatives, acquaintaneces, homeless people(Homeless people will do ANYTHING for a six pack or a pint of Viaka!), your cats and your dogs and just keep moving.

I have found that most "BP" servers are good for a short period and the same with sites from which one blasts out the mail.

It might be best to just keep moving, hide your payment gateways as much as possible and let them dump your domains and sites.

This of course requires WORK on your part; to keep moving but a moving target is a lot harder to hit than a deer in the headlights!

It is also possible to be one's own DNS but I haven't the foggiest idea how!

Someone on the old forum suggested this and I would like to figure out how to do it as that way you would be recieveing the complaints and could round-file them, at least for a while.

Any thoughts?

Nick Danger.

P.S.

Homelss people are also good straw men for bank accouts but take them to a bank far away from the alley in which they live as they will soon foget where you have taken them and do not leave them with any banking info.

You then extract the money from the account using an ATM card and the money is NOT traceable to you!

Heh, heh.

Did I say that?
_________________
He walks again by night.

Isn't that great? He'll use a homeless person to set up a domain for him and then benefit from it, when they are the ones who can be tracked back to his illegal activity. Charming, I say again.

In October of 2006, he also described in quite a bit of detail how an average pump and dump stock spamming scam works:

Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2006 4:05 pm
Post subject: OK, Here It Is.............

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Don't waste your time and resources mailing for someone else on this plan.

What you do is to get someone with at least $10-12K to invest that money in the penny stock of your choice.

You as the mailer then pump up the stock in millions of messages.

You want your freind to buy on Wed or Thursday and you send out your emails on Friday, Saturday and Sunday.

On Monday you keep a VERY close watch on the stock and 90% of the time, you will see the stock rise 6 or more percent.

On Tuesday your freind sells out and the profit will be in the 6-20% area, depending on how well you have worded your email, your delivery rate and how intriguing is the penny stock.

Now 6% of $10K is not a lot of money by itself but if you consider that for this plan to work you should be mailing every week and if you have someone with $50K to invest at the rate of $10K in each of several stocks, the numbers start adding up quickly.

You must keep as much paper distance between yourself and the actual stockholder as the FTC and SEC take a dim view of this practice and will put you in jail if they catch you at so use only overseas mailers, etc.

When setting up this little thingy do NOT use emails, cell phones and keep no written notes.

You can use pre-paid cell phones which are traceable to no one.

Also, you as the mailer NEVER want to actually hold any of the stock in your name or the name of any relative or close freind; you do NOT want this traced back to you!

Good luck!
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He walks again by night.

He wrote a followup in the exact same thread dated January 21st, 2007

Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:24 pm
Post subject: Or...................................................

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If you want to pump-and-dump for yourself and let's face it; all stock mailing is about pump-and-dump (Sorry, gang but that IS the reality!), you get someone with a minimum of ten grand to buy the stock.

Now you don't want any overt connection to this guy, do don't use email, phone calls; meet in resturants and bars like Tony soprano meets his guys.

Above all, DO NOT TALK ON THE PHONE OR THE COMPUTER!

NO IM messaging, NO AIM, NO ICQ, etc.

Your front man buys the stock in his or his compny's name.

A few weeks later, you mail for that stock predicting all sorts of wonderfulness and that money will just be lying around.

You should send these emails on a Wednesday or Thursday.

Come Monday, your guy is sitting at HIS computer wataching that stock like a hawk watches a mouse in a field.

When it goes up 6-8%, which it will if you've emailed properly, he sells.

6% of 10 grand is $600.00


Well.....................................................................

You now have around $10,550.00 to work the next one.

If your guy has, let's say $50K available, you can work several of these at the same time.

Don't so it too often under the same acount though; move around your portfolio among the discount brokers so that you do not draw attention to your little "thang".

This is how it really works and it has nothing to do with these compnaies "raising capital", "funding research", etc; none of the claims made are true.

ALL stock mailing is connected to a pump-and-dump plan so let's not gild the lily and let's also face reality.

Is this legal?

Probably not.

Is it ethical?

When discussing anything connected with the stock market the terms "ethical" and "stocks" are mutually exclusive, so who cares?

Thanks.

Nick Danger.
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He walks again by night.

Anyone remotely familiar with several press releases over the past several months from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) will be painfully aware that what Mr. Danger is describing is a federally illegal act in numerous countries (not only the United States, where "Nick Danger" is located,) and is punishable by heavy fines and real jail time.

His abuse of the identity of homeless people is also a federal crime, punishable by anywhere from 10 - 20 years in prison and several hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines.

If he follows through with his DDOS attack, I believe the time will be ripe for the operators of Spam-Court to follow up with a lawsuit. In fact I even know some successful spam-fighting lawyers who could help with that. :)

SiL