Thursday, October 23, 2008

Is UADreams the new VPXL?

UADreams (Formerly UALadys) is back to spamming everybody whether they want it or not with 100% bogus "Russian dating" messages. Here's a sampling from mere moments ago:

Subject: RE: Message 00

Im a charming blue-eyed blonde, who looks for a male pen friend, or just a man to talk with on Skype or in real life!

Don't loose time and come get registered FREE at: http://el1te-russ1an-g1rls.com/?idAff=5


Subject: RE: Message 61

I'm a beautiful girl, who looks for a male pen friend, or just a man to talk with on Skype or in real life!

I have registered my profile at: http://el1te-russ1an-g1rls.com/?idAff=5


Subject: RE: Message 11

I'm a beautiful girl, who looks for a male pen friend, or just a man to talk with on Skype or in real life!

My home page: http://el1te-russ1an-g1rls.com/?idAff=5


Subject: RE: Message 54

I'm a hot brunette girl, who looks for a male pen friend, or just a man to talk with on Skype or in real life!

My home page: http://el1te-russ1an-g1rls.com/?idAff=5


Subject: RE: Message 30

I am an atractive blonde, and I'm searching for a man to chat with by email or by Skype, or even meet in reality!

My home page: http://el1te-russ1an-g1rls.com/?idAff=5


Of course I never initiated any communication with anyone in Russia (thus: why would there be a "Re:" in the subject in the first place?) This same affiliate (idAff=5) is sending me, on average, five to ten of these per hour, and the wording makes it clear he has utterly no idea what he's doing. Nobody should be dumb enough to click on any of these messages, especially since they all arrived virtually simultaneously.

Ignoring all of that: who describes themselves this way? There's just no basis of reality in any of these messages. Also: nobody is dumb enough to assume they are the sole object of this "woman's" affection. Literally everyone I discuss spam with has received these messages, and continue to do so.

This affiliate was previously sending me non-stop VPXL spam (prior to the shutdown of SanCash / AffKing, of course.) I can tell simply because he's applying the same template and frequency to this "UADreams" spam run. He also mails on behalf of GlavMed / Spamit and is among the mailers sending four times as much "Canadian Pharmacy" spam to everyone on the planet.

I've blogged about UALadys in the past. They clearly have no problem paying mailers to send millions of messages illegally to anybody. This idiot has no idea who's in his lists, and he doesn't care. I could be a 98 year old woman or a five year old boy. He will still assume I am interested in meeting a Russian woman to date and / or marry. This is the typical intellect of the average mailer. Not only do they not segment their lists or clean them, they just flat-out have no idea whatsoever of who is in their lists. Yet they believe it's up to us to take care of that by "just deleting" the millions -- or billions, as we've seen recently -- of messages they clog the Internet with on a daily basis.

Needless to say: you should never join ANY dating site which uses unsolicited email to promote itself.

SiL / IKS / concerned citizen

28 comments:

Anonymous said...

http://itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols.blogspot.com/2008/11/uadreamscom-i-found-this-post.html

I would really like to know if this agency is a scam or not? Some good reports some bad. Have 2 attempts to meet a lady that I have been writing to for 10 months put off as the lady is working in Germany and her contract has been extended.

Of course a friend could also write to the same lady and see if she is in fact working in Germany? If she is still in the Ukraine then it is definitely a scam and the agency would leave itself wide open!

There seem to be more scam sites than datings sites so it makes me wonder how dating sites stay in business. Maybe with the credit crisis they will all disappear as I don´t think men will travel to the Ukraine or Russia looking for a bride due to the costs involved. This is required in order to obtain a fiancee visa for the USA and UK so ladies don´t get your hopes up too high:(

IKillSpammerz said...

> I would really like to know if this agency is a scam or not?
> Some good reports some bad. Have 2 attempts to meet a lady
> that I have been writing to for 10 months put off as the
> lady is working in Germany and her contract has been
> extended.


This is definitely confirmed to be a scam.

Do a simple google search for "confidential connections scam" or "ualadys scam", you see repeated reports of this being just a money pit with absolutely no plans to ever connect you with a genuine human being going by any of the names they contact you with.

Confidential Connections dates back to 2004, and only changed their name to "UALadys", "UAPeople", and later (Feb. 2008 or so) "UADreams". (Or more accurately: they were shut down and had to create a new setup under these various names.)

Proof:

http://www.stop-scammers.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=84
http://forum.fiance.com/forum2.asp?Main=ShowTopic&forumid=1&topicid=3201

According to multiple reports:

- You are not communicating with anyone going by the name you were replied with.
- You are in fact communicating with a man.
- You will never meet a woman by using these so-called "agencies."
- You will pay a great deal of money to the owners of this operation, and the prices will only go up. These allegedly pay for "gifts" for whatever "lady" you're allegedly communicating with, and "translation services."

This operation is assumed to be run by Andrew Y Klimenko, based in Kiev.

DO NOT support this operation. I don't know why people don't get it through their heads: ANYTHING promoted via unsolicited spam messages is a fraud. They do not sell you what they claim, and they are lying with every breath that they take.

SiL

Anonymous said...

Both the UAladys.com and UADreams.com sites appear to be down today

I wonder what this means?

12 November 2008

IKillSpammerz said...

Wow, it just isn't their day is it?

This may be related to a rather large piece of good news which I am attempting to post about. They definitely would have been affected by this event.

SiL

John Davies said...

Hi,

I travelled to Kharkov in April 2008 having been in contact with a number of ladies through the UALadys website.

Whilst there I met 2 ladies, as previously arranged. Both were stunningly attractive, possibly even better than the photos on the website!

The office was a bit scruffy, but well staffed with English speaking employees. The business is obviously geared up to earn money, but that is to be expected!

John D

IKillSpammerz said...

Want to guess whether or not "john davies" is one of their spammers?

"john"'s experience sounds like the polar opposite of what hundreds of others are claiming has happened to them.

I don't buy it, "john", and there is tons of evidence out there to prove that your story is a complete lie.

SiL

Anonymous said...

I was in Poltava the first week in June. I waited for my testimony because I wanted to see what the results of my trip would be. Like many men searching for a wife, I read a lot of things about the bad experiences and scammers. I can only speak for myself. I communicated with 3 different ladies and there was one I was very interested in and she was the reason for my trip. We wrote and exchanged pictures for almost a year and my hopes were very high for our meeting.

The week before I was to leave she stopped writing and was removed from the agency. I didn't know what to do. Reservations made and my vacation from work scheduled I went anyway.

Guys..... I was not disappointed. I was alone in a strange country and did not speak the language. The staff in Poltava treated me like a king. They made me feel very comfortable and seemed to understand my concerns. Within 1/2 hour I was at ease. They took me to my hotel and made sure it was satisfactory for me and helped me check in and get comfortable.

Then the Ladies. I do mean "Ladies"..... I spent 4 of the best and most interesting days of my life. Morning with one and evening with another and vice versa depending on when they were free. Open, honest, serious, educated, fun and beautiful. A dream come true for an old batchler like me, looking to settle down.

The reason I waited to tell my story is that I wanted to see what happened after returning home. Now that I have met these 2 ladies we can exchange personal information.

I wondered what would happen without the agency between us. It has only gotten better. The ladies are serious and our relationship is growing. No one has asked me for money or had any sort of emergency they need help with. ( I am sure many of you guys know what I am talking about.)

Now my problem is deciding which woman to choose. It is very difficult because I would be very happy and satisfied with ether one. Actually I am glad the original woman disappeared. More letters and another trip will help. Like I said I only have my experience.

My advice......If you are only looking for a good time? Don't go. (Although you will have a good time)....If you are looking for sex? Don't go. These ladies deserve respect !!!

If you are looking for love and a woman like no other to spend your life with? Then by all means GO !!! I hope my experience will help anybody that has questions or concerns like I had.

Ron

IKillSpammerz said...

I find your comment to be in stark contrast to the overwhelming amount of negative forum comments throughout the Internet regarding this particular outfit.

That you left it anonymously only furthers my belief that you are either a UALadys representative (in which case you spend a lot of extra effort, again, lying) or one of their mailers.

There is not a single story anywhere regarding UALadys / UADreams which doesn't come to the conclusion that this is a completely fraudulent operation, and a massive ripoff.

You also fail to mention that the sole way most of us have ever heard of UALadys is via unwanted, relentless, illegally sent spam messages. (The whole point of why I bring this up at all.)

> My advice......If you are only looking for a good time?
> Don't go. (Although you will have a good time)....If you are
> looking for sex? Don't go. These ladies deserve respect !!!
>
> If you are looking for love and a woman like no other to
> spend your life with? Then by all means GO !!!


I am looking for none of the above, yet I continue to receive dozens of spam messages promoting this crap.

What's your point?

Good for you if this is your story, but I sincerely doubt that it isn't a complete lie.

SiL

Ken W said...

The assessment of UADreams is bogus & unfounded. Someone got some spam (I'm not sure how long ago) & have only 1 motivation in mind. Unfortunately it does not reflect the true nature of UADreams web site. I've been on the site since 2003, at that time it was 1 site (UALadys). Apparently there were differences of opinion on how the site should be run & it became 2 distinct sites UALadys/UADreams. UADreams has made many upgrades & changes to make it a very attractive, up-to-date dynamic web site. I've never received any spam from either site. I found the site using a search for Russian dating. There are many sites I can not vouch for but the UA-ones seems to be legitimate. If you visit the site (UADreams) there are actual testimonials (like the one written here) of men who have similar positive experiences & actual 1st hand experiences visiting the dating offices at different locations in Ukraine. The site needs money to operate. Is the beef that you need to purchase credits to communicate with the Ladies? I've spent a fair amount communicating with actual woman & I feel it's money well spent. The woman are amazing (I'm so sick of the American woman attitudes about men, love & marriage). I plan on making a visit to meet that one special woman I have my eye on. I would recommend this site without hesitation. I read all the posts here & I think someone has an irrational exuberance to try to destroy the reputation of a legitimate dating site. Pitty...

IKillSpammerz said...

> The assessment of UADreams is bogus & unfounded.

Neither point you just made is true.

I have archives of all the spam I and my colleagues have been receiving for the past two years or more. There are thousands of them. There are hundreds of forum threads out there documenting people who have continually been ripped off by this company.

> Someone got
> some spam (I'm not sure how long ago) & have only 1
> motivation in mind. Unfortunately it does not reflect the
> true nature of UADreams web site.


I can tell you that since they have never shut these affiliates down, that point is also very much incorrect. Also: at least several *thousand* people received spam for this dating site. Nor has anyone at UADreams ever responded to a single complaint regarding this. I don't just pull this out of the air.

Do a search for "uadreams spam", or indeed just "uadreams" on its own. Everything you see after the first items (which are of course for uadreams themselves) are investigations into the completely bogus nature of that company. It isn't just me. One thread on its own numbers in the thousands of complaints about this company.

> I've been on the site
> since 2003, at that time it was 1 site (UALadys). Apparently
> there were differences of opinion on how the site should be
> run & it became 2 distinct sites UALadys/UADreams. UADreams
> has made many upgrades & changes to make it a very
> attractive, up-to-date dynamic web site.


I don't care how "attractive" or "up to date" a site is if the ONLY WAY I've ever heard of it is via unwanted, illegally-sent, massive amounts of spam messages!

> I've never received
> any spam from either site.


Well good for you! I have a list of at least several thousand people who have, who didn't want it, and who never had ANY INTEREST in hearing about that company.

> I found the site using a search
> for Russian dating. There are many sites I can not vouch for
> but the UA-ones seems to be legitimate.


You clearly have not done your research. The scammy nature of that site dates back several years now and is very well documented.

> If you visit the
> site (UADreams) there are actual testimonials (like the one
> written here) of men who have similar positive experiences &
> actual 1st hand experiences visiting the dating offices at
> different locations in Ukraine.


Again: I don't buy that. All the illegally set-up pharmaceutical sites I get spammed with every day also feature "testimonials", so do all the bogus weight loss and "male enhancement" sites I get spammed with. How real do you think those testimonials are?

> The site needs money to
> operate. Is the beef that you need to purchase credits to
> communicate with the Ladies? I've spent a fair amount
> communicating with actual woman & I feel it's money well
> spent.


You appear to be missing the point: I have no desire to ever join this site. I continue to receive spam for it, so I researched it. There are multiple lengthy forum threads where unwitting victims have been scammed out of considerable money from these companies. I mentioned this already in this posting and my previous one regarding this clearly fraudulent operation.

Note: NOT ONE PERSON has ever met up with the "ladies" the site allegedly puts them in contact with. There is TONS of evidence of this. In my opinion, you are either an employee of the company, or one of their spammers.

> The woman are amazing (I'm so sick of the American
> woman attitudes about men, love & marriage). I plan on
> making a visit to meet that one special woman I have my eye
> on.

I bet you are. Let's see how well that goes. (Since this entire comment is likely fictitious, I fully expect an elaborate lie-filled followup about how amazing your trip was.)

> I would recommend this site without hesitation. I read
> all the posts here & I think someone has an irrational
> exuberance to try to destroy the reputation of a legitimate
> dating site. Pitty...


It's not irrational. I have evidence that this company knows that they hire spammers. I have evidence that they don't respond to spam complaints, and if you search for this company you will find evidence that nobody ever meets an actual live human female after spending considerable money at this site. It's not irrational, your continued defense of this well-documented fraud is irrational.

(And people think I need to get out more....)

Don't waste your money on this obviously bogus operation.

SiL / IKS / concerned citizen

P.S. Read this or this for numerous second opinions.

Anonymous said...

You made mistake. UADreams isn't UAladys!!! This is full different company...

IKillSpammerz said...

> You made mistake. UADreams isn't UAladys!!! This is full different company...

Actually they sent messages to their affiliates when they evolved into UADreams, and then another when the split happened. It actually doesn't matter to me because they were both run by the same parties, and they both send spam illegally to people like me who don't want their messages at all! Who cares whether they're two companies or one when they both act the same way, in poor faith, and in violation of the law?

While I'm at it: Whoever you are you clearly represent this company: why not stick to the point I'm making on *my blog*? You
are illegal spammers, and you break the law. Get your own goddamn blog until such time as you stop spamming people! I'm sick of hearing from you via comments on my blog. (Always anonymously, very brave of you.)

As long as we all continue to be bombarded with spam promoting your bogus websites, I'll keep posting about it, and your arguments will be empty. Quit nitpicking over stupid details when you know that you spam!

SiL

IKillSpammerz said...

I'm not publishing any further comments on this posting. Without fail they tend to be fake, made-up stories on behalf of UALadys.

Give it up. Your site is a scam. There is ample proof out there proving it.

SiL

matchmaker said...

I read with interest some of the comments on this page and then visited http://www.ualadys.com/. I was immediately redirected to http://www.ualadys.com/login.rpx, where they immediately asked to register to be allowed to browse their ladies catalog. Am not sure whether they are scammers or not, but evidently they are anxious to harvest as many e-mail addresses as possible to put you on their spam lists:)))))))

Anonymous said...

"" Note: NOT ONE PERSON has ever met up with the "ladies" the site allegedly puts them in contact with. ""
====================

That is complete bullshit. "I" have personally gone to Ukraine a few years back through Confidential Connections (now it's called UALadys) and I met the girl that I was writing with for 6 months.

So how do you explain that? I suppose you'll just label me another "fake" testimonial becasue it doesn't fit your agenda?

Why don't you be a man and grow some balls and get on a plane and actually see what it is that you are "reporting" about s you don't look like a little ignrant boy simply repeating stuff you read on the net.

IKillSpammerz said...

> "" Note: NOT ONE PERSON has ever met up with the "ladies"
> the site allegedly puts them in contact with. ""
> ====================
>
> That is complete bullshit. "I" have personally gone to
> Ukraine a few years back through Confidential Connections
> (now it's called UALadys) and I met the girl that I was
> writing with for 6 months.
>
> So how do you explain that? I suppose you'll just label me
> another "fake" testimonial becasue it doesn't fit your
> agenda?


I explain it thusly, "Anonymous":

- I and numerous others have continued to receive spam promoting these services when we had ZERO desire to receive them. Since that is the purpose of this blog (talking about spam and the programs which profit from them) I began to investigate.
- I received TONS of negative feedback from NUMEROUS individuals who did NOT have your experience. This includes several individuals who spent quite a lot of time and money, including traveling to Ukraine, only to be told there was some excuse or another as to why they were unable to meet their "ladies".
- Further research exposed that this operation has been known to be running illicitly and lying to their customers for years under a variety of company names.

> Why don't you be a man and grow some balls and get on a
> plane and actually see what it is that you are "reporting"
> about s you don't look like a little ignrant boy simply
> repeating stuff you read on the net.


Coming from someone who didn't even bother to identify himself while commenting on my blog, that's really inappropriate, "Anonymous".

All of the "glowing" reviews I have received via other "Anonymous" commenters have been so ridiculously worded, and provably fake, that no, I don't publish them. (Also keep in mind: I usually will not publish any anonymous comments, period, but since you were so forceful in your wording I decided to make an exception.)

The sheer volume of complaints that series of sites have received and which is well documented and researched - including via travel to the Ukraine, etc. - speaks for itself. If you don't believe them, maybe you should comment on their accounts as well.

Me: I just immediately have a huge amount of disdain for any company which I discover solely via unwanted, illegally sent spam messages.

SiL

Randall said...

I've been to Russia and Ukraine probably 12 times in the last few years and met dozens of women through various websites, including Confidential Connections, Anastasia, Army of Brides, Match-RU, and others. The main thing I have to tell you is that almost none of the women look anywhere close to as good in person as in the photos. There have been exceptions, but those have been few and far between. The worst is the Angelika Network, of which Match-RU is a part of.

Another thing you have to realize, and I've verified this many times with insiders in the various companies with these dating websites, is that they ALL send out unsolicited mail from girls. I got to know an agency owner in Kharkov Ukraine, who was affiliated with the "Army of Brides" group. She told me that they all do that. And I've even received emails in the US from ladies I had already met over there. One in particular that I had very close relations with, and in fact almost ended up with.

But the best one was; I wrote this girl on the Anastasia Website in Sumy who was about 23 or 24, and got a letter back from her that said "maybe you should try to communicate with someone closer to my age". I was about 48 at the time, but looked damn good if I don't say so myself. Anyway, a few months later I traveled to Sumy and ended up meeting this girl. She was great and we could have ended up together, but when I told her what happened, she said that the translator at the agency had told her that she had written the letter to me.

I know that the girls in most all cases are STRONGLY encouraged to write back to men who contact them, no matter the age difference, or how repulsive they find the men. I've even heard cases where they've literally brow beaten the women into doing this. After all, it's all about the green.

But I have to say I have met girls through Confidential Connections in both Kharkov and Zhitomir. They were expensive as hell, actually twice and three times as expensive as other agencies, and they had a few rip-off things happening. But I did meet some nice ladies, especially a very interesting and beautiful girl in Zhitomir. It didn't work out between us, but that was probably more my fault, or at least I like to think so. It is a little wierd meeting these girl's parents sometimes when they're younger than you are in many cases. But I did have a friend from Florida who wrote to a real cute girl in Ukraine through CC, and she wouldn't meet him when he visited. She was "conveniently" out of town or something.

But I still frequently get letters from 19, 20 and 21 year old girls from these websites, and I'm sure they are sent out as trolling mechanisms of these sites. I've written some of them back, and have had some nice letter writing relationships with some of them. Now I'm sure, sometimes it's probably Boris and Yuri in some shithole office laughing like hell about this "idiot Americanitz". But that becomes pretty clear when they don't remember small details that would be important to a real girl, or they say they LOOOOVE YOU and "wont yur hot, hard body" after just one email. That's kind a of a give away. But I'm sure also many of them have been real.

And there are a lot of real women over there that just want a good man to treat them with respect and love them, especially the ones with children. Economic conditions are pretty sad over there, and getting worse by the minute, so I'm sure there'll be even more in the near future.

But IKS is spot on when he says this is essentially about spamming. And it sounds like you have been spammed to death my friend. And don't doubt for a second that they don't do this. So you do have a major point.

Jesus man, I just scrolled back and saw how much I wrote. Sorry about taking so much space, but I thought a little rationality was needed about the subject. BTW, I checked out some of your other blogs and really appreciate them. I found them helpful and informative. Peace.

Paul T.
Atlanta, US

Art Cox said...

Sil,
You use the term "illegally sent spam messages". spam is either unsolicited or just spam. If I had a new product and wanted to reach a large market I would send out mass mailings to get prospective buyers. So it is not illegal. I have researched UADreams and UALadys and they use a mailing list to send messages to, so to say you got a unsolicited e-mail from them isn't quite true. you had to be on their mailing list or a mailing list they purchased from some address provider.
Just a thought,
Art

IKillSpammerz said...

> You use the term "illegally sent spam messages". spam is
> either unsolicited or just spam.


That's completely incorrect. The recipient either opted in, wanted to receive these messages, cared to hear about the product or service being promoted, and wished to continue to hear news or updates about these products or services, or they did not, never wished to, and never gave the sender permission to send them this information. More importantly: they also were (or are) incapable of getting off their lists.

It's a pretty simple difference, which you apparently don't care to take any note of.

Further: unsolicited messages can be considered in violation of recently-passed anti-spam laws if it bears any of the following notable details:

- Forged headers of any sort, or any other means of attempting to hide the true sender of the message.
- A lack of any means of opting out, or a present means of opting out which has no effect whatsoever.
- A lack of any contact details for the company or product being promoted.
- Sent to a list of recipients who never once "opted in" to your mailing specifically, that is to say: not purchased from someone else who most likely harvested the addresses

And in some countries, notably the US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and the UK, if you use a botnet - which is a large organized network of computers which are harnessed without the knowledge or consent of their users - you're committing wire fraud, among other things.

UALadys spam (when it was being sent, it's been many months now since I've seen any promoting them, but it IS the only way I ever heard about this particular company at all), and of course spam promoting Canadian Pharmacy, ALWAYS feature these earmarks.

Thus: illegally sent.

> If I had a new product and
> wanted to reach a large market I would send out mass
> mailings to get prospective buyers. So it is not illegal.


That depends how you send it, and how you built up your email list, but it's extremely clear to me that you also don't follow the law.

If you forge headers or fail to present or honor any confirmed opt-out process: yes it is illegal. If you bought your list from some unknown third party who cannot validate for you how these addresses were obtained: yes it is illegal. If you use a botnet: yes it is illegal.

There is case law now to support each of these and many more reasons this can very much be considered illegal. People are in jail as we speak and have been severely fined and had injunctions and restraining orders placed against them for violating these laws. You don't know what you're talking about.

> I have researched UADreams and UALadys and they use a mailing
> list to send messages to, so to say you got a unsolicited
> e-mail from them isn't quite true. you had to be on their
> mailing list or a mailing list they purchased from some
> address provider.
> Just a thought,
> Art


"Just a thought", huh?

I note that you mention one of the above-mentioned illegal means of acquiring email addresses.

That is a completely bullshit argument, "Art", and you know it. The sole reason I write this blog is precisely because I never opted in to receive emails promoting any kind of Russian dating site I would never in a billion years ever care to hear about. The ONLY WAY I have ever heard of this company was because I received, logged, researched and reported several THOUSAND such spam messages, all of which were sent in violation of the above-mentioned laws.

Further: I am not the only recipient of these messages who most definitely NEVER wanted to receive them.

You know that your argument is completely invalid. More to the point: you don't know (or care about) the law.

SiL

Anonymous said...

Reference Art Cox´s post

A group at (www.delphifaq.com/faq/russian_marriage_scams/f5332.shtml)
http://bit.ly/2mg228 have investigated
and prooved that both uadreams.com and ualadys.com are fraudulent websites.

Intitial duplicate letters (word for word) have been published at (myuadreamsexperience.blogspot.com)
http://bit.ly/D4J0s and (myuadreamsexperience.blogspot.com).
http://bit.ly/85Zrcn

If fraud is prooved beyond all reasonable doubt the online dating agency, their credit card processor, the credit card company that processed the victims payment VISA or Mastercard are equally guilty of fraud and being unaware of it is not an excuse. I respectfully submit that the person sending the initial spam messages comes under this directive. Likewise if the ladies
were part of the fraud receiving money - example http://bit.ly/chX9Q (ukrainianguide.com/a-shocking-truth-about-lugansk-ukraine-or-ukrainian-beauties/)
At my instigation I have one country´s police force investigating.

My credti card company have repaid all monies that I paid to both ualadys.com
and uadreams.com

Gary Rush said...

I don't know what all the controversy
is about.I've been communicating with a beautiful youbg woman from Ukraine for 6 months now and there is absolutely no hint of "The scam"I think sometimes men really do have bad experiences with some agencies but I think they are isolated instances.UADreams is legit,I have no doubts about that!Anyway,that's my two cents worth.

IKillSpammerz said...

> Gary Rush said...
>
> I don't know what all the controversy is about.


Really? You don't think a company like UALadys ripping people off for years is controversial?

First: you're commenting on a three year old article, so I would say that your attention to this is greatly delayed.

Second: Numerous (dozens to hundreds) of men have spent thousands of dollars to this company without ever seeing their alleged "lady". I'd say that's controversial.

Sounds like you and the other anonymous commenter are being encouraged heavily by the operators of UAladys to seed my blog with comments to boost their image. That's probably because whenever someone searches for UALadys, this very blog is within the first several pages of results. It's important to note that this is not the only site which published this information. Numerous sites which are dedicated to monitoring scam websites like UALadys have been talking about their illicit activity for many more years than my blog. You have your work cut out for you.

In my opinion, any dating site whose primary means of promoting themselves is botnet-driven spamming is most certainly going to be a scam. UALadys is only one of many.

Nice try though.

SiL

Anonymous said...

ua dreams a lot of the ladies are on for a period of time and then disappear but they mysteriously are drooped from the site but usually after they have gotten some presents or something more like English lessons. no word they just disapear

Anonymous said...

I am the author of http://myuadreamsexperience.blogspot.com

"I know that the girls in most all cases are STRONGLY encouraged to write back to men who contact them, no matter the age difference, or how repulsive they find the men. I've even heard cases where they've literally brow beaten the women into doing this. After all, it's all about the green."

what puzzles me that since May 30 2010 I have been visited Germany
10,371 on my site http://itccommunicationsnet-johnnichols.blogspot.com/- www.google.de 1,049 of which came from Google search.

I strongly believe that this is the lady that I was writing to 80 letters over 18 months. She went to work in Germany as a nanny by the type of posts she reads on my blog

I can only assume that she cannot contact me directly as they have threatened her life, my life or that of the family. She is obviously terrified of these bastards

And the police do nothing about it
These agencies are PEOPLE TRAFFICKERS

Anonymous said...

A more recent update to UA Dreams.

In late 2012 I met what I thought was a very nice lady on another site, not UA Dreams.

We chatted for about a month, then she informed me that her friend who was helping her with the translations was leaving for work elsewhere and she needed to find another site to use that had better translation services.

She then sent me a link to UA Dreams. She claimed to have just signed up with this site.

I checked it and was appalled to see the fees required just for sending messages. That was the first clue, then there are fees for viewing images, video chat etc., the list never ends!

A quick search of the internet showed me a webpage with her photo on it. Checking the page info showed the page had not been updated since 2009, three years earlier!

Tell me UA Dreams isn't a scam. It is 100% scam.

I will not mention the "other site" I met her on, because I think it is reputable and still use it to chat with another very nice lady whom has never asked me to do anything for her, give her anything or move to a different site.

I reported the first lady immediately to the site I currently use and the site manager appologized, did a review and took down her posting. UA Dreams when I reported her on the other hand, made excuses and told me she was an honest lady who just happened to neglect to mention that she had originally singed up on their site three years earlier. Go figure.

avsroy said...

As for UaDreams I'm registered on there for about 6 yrs, not sure. I doubt I've spent more than $100 over those years, never paid for anything else than the letters. Obviously like other guys on here I did receive tons of letters from hundreds of "ladies" from all over the Ukraine. I might be the only person on here who's native country has its border with Ukraine as I'm originally from Slovakia, currently resides in the UK for about 10 years. Anyway, I contacted UaDreams via their Facebook page asking them for their branch address in Lutsk. Of course they refused to send me such information in order to buy Trip package suitable for my needs so I would meet a lady of my "dreams" and they would take care about everything else once I put my feet on their soil. But they didn't expect a sort of information I've sent to them in my next message!! I said - "I won't fly to Ukraine because I would drive to Lutsk myself, it's not even 700km from my hometown so you don't have to be worry about me neither do I need anyone from your agency to pick me up from the airport! All I need is your branch address so I know what I should put into my SatNav!" No wonder they never replied to me since. One thing is absolutely clear - any legitimate business wouldn't hide its exact location, would welcome you on their premises with arms wide opened in order to earn money which is a purpose of every business run! Instead they are trying to hide from their customers! You look at their website, it's up to date, graphically perfect, professional pictures but when you watch those "testimonials" posted on YouTube then you see the guys talking blah blah in the offices which looks like they are placed in the last standing building in Stalingrad in late winter 1942! Martin G.

Anonymous said...

It's a scam. I had 2 contacts on another website and they both lured me to uadreams. A rip off. Fortunately I met someone who did not want to write ages, gave me her phone number and we started talking hours in a week. After a couple of weeks going for a weekend to meet her. Men writing for months, get yourself sorted!

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